45-70 NEF Handi-Rifle lmild recoil deer load needed ASAP!

[versifier]

My daughters use the recoil shield in the top link for most of their shooting, as do several other women shooters that I know. They swear by them. I use the bottom one for bench work. They come in several thicknesses. No reason both kinds can't be used together. Sorbothane is fantastic stuff. I walk on it, too, and wouldn't be able to get far without it, especially on rainy days and in colder weather. That is what I was talking about in my post above. I should have posted these links in it.

Also important with small-framed people and/or those without much upper body muscle development is teaching them to set the buttstock of rifle or shotgun on the front shoulder muscles and not over on the collar bone. I was in my twenties before it was pointed out to me - wish I knew it in my teens.

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[Mike in tx]

Clayton I am going to the range Tues and will be trying out Trail Boss on 405 cast.

[Clayt]

This is a challenge, it's like Barbi goes hunting!

[Mike in tx]

Clayton, 12.5 grains of Trail Boss under 405 grain cast. Eight shots in 1 inch at 50 yards. Supposedly 1000 fps. Very mild load. Savage 99 in 308 did even better. Muzzle loader shot about 2 inches at 50 yards. Good day for me. This was Ryan's second day shooting and he is coming along good. Better trigger control and actually had 10 shots from the AR in 2 inches at 100 yards.

[versifier]

Good news Mike. Any progress with Barbie Clayt?

[Mike in tx]

No senor Oh I forget he is French model

[Clayt]

Thanks Mike.

I'm loading up for a full range day in 2 weeks. I did order the ladies recoil pad that Vers suggested. (Thanks) I have had Hunting Barbi shooting the air rifle with a scope to learn the basics. it's a coin toss as to how this all will go.

[Mike in tx]

Try some 300 grain over Trail Boss.

[versifier]

Keep telling her how impressed and proud you are that she has the courage to try it and keep at it. She may not be ready for it this year and that's OK if it gets her into shooting. If the recoil is still too much for her even with bunny fart loads, a single shot .410 with slugs and a peep sight may be a better choice, or a Whisper, .30-30, 7-30Waters, 6-6.5-7TCU, .250Sav, .257Bob, or .243 barrel for the H&R. I just cannot recommend a .223, but you already know my reasoning on that. Or she might like bowhunting better. Keep an open mind about it and continue being patient. Every new shooter and hunter is our future. Things will work out.

[Mike in tx]

Clayton, how is the testing going. I am going to try some different loads next week. Steve is taking me dove "shooting" tomorrow. We'll see if I can remember anything from last summer. LOL