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Thanks KG, I bet I can get a copy of the oct nov handloader somewhere. I haven't crimped over the front band of the bullet because it looks...uhm...uh...ahh..ugly. Another problem is the fact that...

I have never had that kind of trouble with bdot, but have just recently used it as a low pressure load in my '73 copy and it is filthy. Someone suggested that alliants bdot would be cleaner burning...

I loaded some .357 cases with 9.2 grs. or bdot and crimped beyond the crimp groove to get them to fit in my cylinded chambers Nice clean accurate loads with a thump, but sometimes a bullet wanted to...

I am new to this forum and very interested in finding a bluedot load for a ,358429 in .38 cases that is less than 30,000 cup...+p+. Thank you.