700X in the 45LC?

Gentlemen:

I have recently come into a large quanity of 700X and I intend to use it in my centerfire pistols.

Are any of you fellows currently using 700X in the 45LC as in weak action SSA?

How about 45 ACP, or 38 Special?

Thanks for your help.

Good morning,
Forrest

My Hornady book only list 700x in 45acp for the boolits. 5.8gr, for the 200gr boolits & 5.6gr for the 230gr boolits.

I haven't ever loaded for the lc, have been using unique & tight group in my 45 auto loads.

Toney:

Sure, I have a Hornady book too.

I'm looking for actual loads others are currently shooting.

Good morning,
Forrest

FAsmus,
Welcome to the board !!!!!!
My dad uses 800X in the 45 Colt, and loves it! Infact it is his fervent powder for the 45 colt!!! 700X will work OK but in my dads Ruger Bisley 800X is his fervent powder.
DANIEL/BS JR.

Bullshop:

Thanks but the 700X is all I have at the moment ~ 10 pounds of it for free.

Since I do not shoot scatter guns my only use will be pistols and I just wondered if the forum had someone expierienced in its use.

We'll see I guess.

Good afternoon,
Forrest

Hello FAsmus,
Welcome to the board !
Sure can't complain about the price of 700X powder !
Sounds like you are going to stay busy for a long time!
Got a good one; Joined an Italian Cowboy shooting board.
I am the very first one to join. Got several warm welcomes.
That felt good.Has a mix of English and Italian.
Sure is different from the German I've learned, and forgetting.
Should get a spot ready for the Christmas tree.
OR,I'll hear about it. (Yes dear, yes,dear)
See ya later.

FAsmus,
Well you can not beet that price!!!

I will look around and see if I can find you some data.
DANIEL/BS JR.

Well I went and found you some load data.


PRIMER:CCI #300
POWDER:4.0gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: 141gn SPEER ROUND BALL
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:544
OTHER:FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER:CCI #300
POWDER: 5.9gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 200gn JACKETED SEMI-WADCUTTER
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:804
OTHER:FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER: CCI #300
POWDER:5.8gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 250gn JACKETED SEMI-WADCUTTER
CASE:WINCHESER
LUBE:
FPS:769
OTHER: FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER:CCI #300
POWDER:6.1gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 200gn H.P.
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:863
OTHER: FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER:CCI #300
POWDER:6.3gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 225gn H.P.
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:822
OTHER:FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER: CCI #300
POWDER:6.0gn OF IMR 700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 260gn H.P.
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:761
OTHER:FROM SPEER #10

PRIMER: CCI #300
POWDER:5.2gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: RCBS #82081 AND RCBS #82308
CASE: WINCHESTER
LUBE: DOES NOT SAY
FPS:787
OTHER:FROM SPEER #13

PRIMER:CCI #300
POWDER:6.1gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: SPEER 200gn JACKETED (DOES NOT SAY DESINE)
CASE:WINCHESTER
LUBE:
FPS:852
OTHER:FROM SPEER #13

PRIMER: DOES NOT SAY
POWDER:5.7gn OF IMR-700X
BULLET/BOOLIT: 250gn LEAD (DOES NOT SAY DESINE)
CASE: DOES NOT SAY
LUBE: DOES NOT SAY
FPS:815
OTHER:FROM MODERN RELOADING***BY RICHARD LEE

I have more data if ou want for the 45 colt.
DANIEL/BS JR.

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Originally Posted by topic:TightGroup-Unique: By:C1PNR

Never have tried TightGroup. Never did find the sweet spot with Unique.

I really liked 452AA, but of course Winchester did away with it as soon as they found out it was working for me!
I also like 700X in the 25-2. Bullseye works VERY well in the NM 1911 with light boolits.

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FAsmus

check out the quote.
I Beleave that a 25-2 is a S&W 45 acp N frame.
DANIEL/BS JR.

Hi, guys.

Big thumbs up on the 800X powder in .45 Colt. Its the bees knees with 8.0 grains that scoots it along 800 + fps...very accurate moderate load.

The 700X is pretty fast powder and more inclined to smaller brass cartridge cases like the .45 acp, that's only my opinion and not chisled in stone.

Titegroup is a good .45 Colt powder, with a 230 grain 1/8" HB bullet I used 5.8grains and got one to two inch groups.

Jim

Welcome to the guide Jim

Hi FAsmus

I would like the 700X a lot if it were more regular in my LEE measures.
In 9mm it is quite annoying as I will have FTEs and stovepipes despite visual inspection of what I believe is every case... maybe it's the Llama's fault...
Anyways I don't recommend it for small cases if you want to autodisk the loads; or don't have time to check and correct them.
The flakes bridge/jam/choke in/before the smaller disk cavities, which is frequent with flake powders.

Well me I only have four pounds of it .....

I tried it in 45auto and 44 cowboy (mag cases), and found that I still had irregular loads despite the higher volume of powder. At least the guns didn't choke on their pills...
Note that the regular diet of the 44 is a slower but similar flake powder (SP83~Herco); loads irregularity is less of a problem then :1/2 gr max out of 9 of SP83 I think.
( I can't find my notes on the measure checks and loads at the time, sorry...that's embarrassing...)

This being said this is the kind of powder I like: fast, fluffy and economic. Ball powders which disappear in the bottom of cases make me very nervous.
I would use 700X more if I didn't have pet loads with other powders.

kg

I'd say you're very lucky to have acquired 4 pounds of 700X, its a darn good fairly fast burning powder...just use it in a good powder measure like a RCBS Uniflow or a Dillon slide-bar measure.

I have both and either one will measure the flake powders quite well.

Not to knock your Lee powder measure but been there, done that, and I know your pain with it. I never liked Lee PM because they use a standard of grain readings that are outside of industry standards. Don't like reading conversion sheets to arrive at a proper reading.

My supply of 700X is practically nil, as I use so many other types that are more case filling if possible for the .44 and .45 Colt cartridges.

Jim

I bought a 12 lb. keg when 700X was made by Dupont, and am still using it. I replaced Bullseye in both .45 ACP and .38 special for target cast bullet wadcutter loads. (Both guns are Clark long slide conversions). I like its greater bulk than Bullseye, particular in the .38 case. Also noted that it is cleaner burning. I currently use:

.38 special 2.8 grains 700-X with H&G 50, 148 grain wadcutter.
.45 ACP 4.0 grains 700-X with H&G 68, 200 grain wadcutter.

I was using 3.5 grains in .45 ACP, very accurate & mild. With advancing age, I had to put a red dot scope on my guns and occasionally ejected cases would get caught between the scope mount and slide. A snappier action with 4.0 grains solved this problem.

I use a Dillon 550, and don't have a problem with charge weight variation. For manual charging, I previously used a Belding & Mull measure, also OK with 700-X.

Welcome to the guide BigCheese