I slug my enfield 303 Mark 3 to get the burrle size for reloading. it measure to be .308 . Can I use A 308 bullet
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I slug my enfield 303 Mark 3 to get the burrle size for reloading. it measure to be .308 . Can I use A 308 bullet
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Versifier. What I think he is trying to say is he slugged the barrel of his .303 Enfield and got a measurement of .308". He wants to know if he can use .308" bullets.
What confuses me is a .303 takes .312" bullets and a .308" bullet would rattle down the bore. I hesitate to answer his question because if I say he needs .312" bullets in a .303 brit. and the gun is a conversion to something else like those 7.62 NATO Ishapore rifles, well you get the picture.
Ronledson. We need a lot more details before we can answer your question. In fact, a picture of the rifle's action showing the magazine would be a big help as the 7.62 conversions used a different shaped magazine.
Paul B.
Thank you I'll Try Get Some Picture .That is what is confuses me also.I know it takes .311 to .312 .But why is it sluging out to .308 I have been useing sierra 150 spitzer #2300 with a BC of .344 Iam Trying to find a Better BC bullet in The 150 or 160 speer hot-cor with Bc Of .520 I think.Oh yes iit's a 5 groove barrel. The photo has a ND what dose it stand for
The barrel is a 5 groove I think got it now By this
wrap a thin feeler guage around slug, mike, subtract the thickness of the feeler guage X 2 My slug with a .002 shim around it measure .315 - .004 = .311.
am I right If
So I will use Speer spitzer SP with a bc of .411 48. of Imr 4064 28554 C.O.L 3.075 Psi about 35700 for a Elk at 150 - 170 yd
i have only seen one 303 with a 308 bbl and it is a mark-4.
a 174 gr bullet with a muzzle velocity in the 2500+ range will kill an elk just fine.
i use the hornady 150 interlock for elk and the sierra 150 for deer in my no*4 both in the 2600+ velocity range.
runfiverun loadfull of thank
Am I TO Hot With Hornady 174 At 42.Gr Of IMR 4064 at 2555 Vel Energy at 170 YD Of Around 1955 for Elk
yes.
i'd say that is a bit too much.
my hornady book shows 39 grs I-4064 as maximum with the 174 gr bullet.
Would this be a good load for Enfield Mark 3
IMR 4064 44.6 at 2750 for a Elk at 150 yds.At 75 if I can get within a 150 yds with my arthritis
When the late Jack O'Connor asked his guide whether he thought his rifle was enough for the game they were hunting, his Indian guide said, "Any gun good. Shootum good." It's a good answer. You rifle is good enough. It's up to you to "shootum good", that is put the bullet in the right place. Good luck on your hunt. I hear you on the arthritis. I'm 74 and have some that to put up with too. I also have a right knee that no longer has any cartilige and it will pop as I walk along. It's true that getting old ain't for sissies.
Paul B.
that would be allright [some would say no]
i use a 7x57 with 139 gr hornady interlocks for elk.
the hornady does a very good job of penetrating and opening with modest velocitys.
within 300 yds a few hundred feet in velocity is really not that big of a deal.
a 150 at 2700 or a 174 at 2400 either will do the job.
i have shot a couple of deer with a 200 gr speer in my 8 mauser launched at 2,000 fps.
and a few more with cast boolits at the same velocity.
the only time i have seen velocity really matter is when you are trying to make a jacketed hollow point open.
Hornady 174 at 35-40 Dollars a box 150 is what it's going to be at 20-25 dollarsa box
This year It will be my first time in using a scope
Thank's again
That's a pretty big jump in price for the heavier bullets. I get the impression you are not here in the US. This leads me to believe that the elk you speak of might be what we here in the US call the moose. If I am ccorrect, I believe the heavier weight bullet would be the better option. I understand about bullet cost, When I decided to use the 225 gr. Barnes TSX at $45 a box for 50 bullets, I cringed, bit the bullet and paid the price. The end result was a very badly spooked cow elk running like mad, shot, stopped and dead right there at 150 yards. I bought three of those boxes of pricey bullets used about 30 to get the load I wanted and the rest are loaded and ready and waiting for my next elk hunt which will start December 6, 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronledson
I'm sure the 150 gr. bullet will work just fine on a nice broadside shot but what if you don't get that easy shot? The elk I shot in 2010 with the Barnes bullet was running like mad quartering slightly to the left. The bullet hit just behind the short ribs and exited between the neck and right shoulder. The elk dropped at impact and that bullet traveled through about four feet of animal before exiting. I guess that expensive bullet was worth every penny, judging by the end result. That two year old cow elk made for some very tasty dinners.
Paul B.
I live in Idaho no one carry the 174 for my Enfield [ got it in 1961 ] I would have order them $22.00 + shipping $14.50 + $38.87
I can it the 150 local $18.00 - $ 25.00 The 174 would be a better choose. I’am retire and on a fix income.
I only elk hunting if I get a controlled hunt tag like got the last four or five years .I was luckly the one I got was within 100yds and I used factory The most of them I saw were 175 to 200yds +I use my Steven 325A 30-30 [ got in 1956 ] for deer got a lot of deer with it
"I’am retire and on a fix income."
I can certainly understand where you are coming from on that. So am I. What I did was stock up long before I retired which was about 11 years ago. That has helped out a lot. At least you're in good hunting country. I am too but tags here in Arizona are not all that easy to draw. In 33 years since I moved here, I have never drawn for antelope. In 2009, one of the sites I go to sponsored a group hunt with an outfitter in New Mexico for a reduced price and I put it on the credit card. I got a very nice one and his head looks down at me when I watch TV.
It's been 8 years since I drew an elk tag so in 2010, I booked with the same outfitter and did a fairly affordable cow elk hunt, again in New Mexico. Thanks once again to the plastic. Well, I'm down to a couple of pounds of hamburger from that elk so I'm booked again for another cow elk hunt in December.
I haven't drawn for deer in Arizona for the last 6 years and won't know if I have until August. Based on past results, I'm not holding my breath. My wife has also put in for this hunt as she likes the area I out in for so maybe with her on the form, it might change my luck.
I wonder why shipping is so expensive? Must be Midway. For some reason, they won't use the Post Office flat rate boxes where if it fits, it ships. That would only be $5.00 and change for shipping using the small box. I just bought a bunch of 250 gr. .35 caliber Hornady bullets, three boxes worth and they fit into that $5.00 box.
Dunno what the 174 gr. bullets sell for down here but I could take a look and if you want get a box and ship it in the flat rate box. Your choice. I checked the box that the bullets came in and it was $6.00 but that was with insurance. I think the rate is $5.15 give or take a few cents.
Paul B.
That would be great if you can. My email is ronledson@hotmail.com Let me know
where at in idaho?
you can see where i am.
if you are close enough i might could help with the bullet thing.
graf and sons charges something like 5 dollars on everything for shipping.
Moscow about 30 Miles north of Lewiston and 10 Miles from Pullman Washington
i have a partial box of the 174 gr hornady's if you were close enough i would have just dropped them off or met you somewhere.
we have been talking about going to henry's lake for some camping/fishing and thought i might be close enough to wherever you were to make a small side trip.
I'll take a run out to Sportsman's Warehouse and see what they have on hand and get a price. I've got to pick up a few goodies for myself anyway. I can let you know what they want for them and you can decide. fair enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by ronledson
Paul B.
sound good to me
Check your E-mail.
Paul B.
Thank alot for checking out. Who know I may not a elk this tag I have been luckly the last few years.The draw in july I have time to desideon 150 or 174 a box may last me r the rest of live.your emil would not let to reply.If the 150 hit 2402fps at 100yrds I may OK The Elk Are about 450lbs - 475lbs .at 200yds 2403x2403 x150 Div by 450395 = About 1800 - 1900 of energy at 2300fps would be about 1500 -1600 of energy What I Have been reading That it take 1900 lbs of energy to nock down a 500 lb elk So if I Div 500 in 1900 = 3.8 per pound . 400x3.8 = 1520 of energy for 400 lb elk.With a well place shot. I may be wrong
.So if I can fine a safe load between 2600-2700 at 150yds I'll be OK
Thank's again Ron
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