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07-25-2016, 12:09 PM
I decided to put a scout scope on my Swede. I wanted a mount that would not require any d&t or other modifications to the rifle. I had thought it would be a simple thing to do, having done it on a number of other rifles, and it would have been if I had ordered the right mount the first time and not tried to cheap out. Here is my tale so far......
A month or so ago I went online to find a no-gunsmithing scout mount that attaches to the base of the ladder sight at the pivot pin. These set- ups are solid and I have put different ones of similar design on Mauser 98's and on my K31 Swiss, making them my two favorite shooting rifles of my whole collection. This m96 is easily capable of hits out beyond 200yds, but my almost 60yr old eyes are no longer. I can see within 150yds still well enough to pop a varmint with a peep sight, but with the notched rear of the ladder sight I have trouble at anything beyond 100.
So, I ordered from Optics Planet a $38 Sun Optics m96 no-gunsmithing Scout Base. The one they picture in their advertizing looks exactly like what I wanted:353
It was not what they sent me, this was: 354
Note that I have it lined up backwards, so that rail, instead of extending forward so the scope would clear the action and one could load via stripper clip points backwards placing the scope's eyepiece directly over the open action. By definition, this is not a scout mount.
Notice that unlike what they advertised, this mount does not attach via the sight pin. It clamps to the ladder. With this amazing piece of engineering was a 3"x3.5" instruction sheet. Here's what it said:
SM8559
Swedish Model 96 Scope Mount (Fits Model 96 only)
TO INSTALL: BE SURE FIREARM IS UNLOADED-REMOVE BOLT
Remove original rear sight by tapping sight pin out. Store rear sight and pin
in a safe place.
Place nut-plate under gun’s sight leaf
Place base upon leaf
Attach with screws furnished- slide assembly forward before final tightening
Tighten adjustment screws down against firearm. Do not over-tighten.
Tighten lock screws
Mount is now ready for scope installation. Check screws after initial firing.
Re-tighten if necessary.
NOTE: Elevation adjustment is obtained by loosening and tightening adjustment
screws.
After a number of emails and several phone calls I was able to get someone for tech assistance. I talked to a very nice man who first asked for a photo of the rifle to make sure I had the correct part. I did, but it did not fit the ladder (which they confusingly refer to as a "leaf", and htf am I supposed to figure that out after being told to "remove the sight and put it in a safe place"?). The unexplained and never-mentioned roll pin that was sticking out of the underside of the base prevented it from fitting into the ladder slot without removing the ladder slide (requiring a pin punch the diameter of a pencil lead).
Needless to say I sent the cheap Chinese POS back to them. I refuse to put such trash on a valuable rifle. To my utter shock they PUBLISHED MY REVIEW. Here's a link to it: http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/reviews-sun-optics-mauser-mosin-nagant-scout-mounts-review-322588.html
Yesterday morning I ordered an $85 S&K Carl Gustav Scout Mount. When it arrives I shall continue this saga.......
A month or so ago I went online to find a no-gunsmithing scout mount that attaches to the base of the ladder sight at the pivot pin. These set- ups are solid and I have put different ones of similar design on Mauser 98's and on my K31 Swiss, making them my two favorite shooting rifles of my whole collection. This m96 is easily capable of hits out beyond 200yds, but my almost 60yr old eyes are no longer. I can see within 150yds still well enough to pop a varmint with a peep sight, but with the notched rear of the ladder sight I have trouble at anything beyond 100.
So, I ordered from Optics Planet a $38 Sun Optics m96 no-gunsmithing Scout Base. The one they picture in their advertizing looks exactly like what I wanted:353
It was not what they sent me, this was: 354
Note that I have it lined up backwards, so that rail, instead of extending forward so the scope would clear the action and one could load via stripper clip points backwards placing the scope's eyepiece directly over the open action. By definition, this is not a scout mount.
Notice that unlike what they advertised, this mount does not attach via the sight pin. It clamps to the ladder. With this amazing piece of engineering was a 3"x3.5" instruction sheet. Here's what it said:
SM8559
Swedish Model 96 Scope Mount (Fits Model 96 only)
TO INSTALL: BE SURE FIREARM IS UNLOADED-REMOVE BOLT
Remove original rear sight by tapping sight pin out. Store rear sight and pin
in a safe place.
Place nut-plate under gun’s sight leaf
Place base upon leaf
Attach with screws furnished- slide assembly forward before final tightening
Tighten adjustment screws down against firearm. Do not over-tighten.
Tighten lock screws
Mount is now ready for scope installation. Check screws after initial firing.
Re-tighten if necessary.
NOTE: Elevation adjustment is obtained by loosening and tightening adjustment
screws.
After a number of emails and several phone calls I was able to get someone for tech assistance. I talked to a very nice man who first asked for a photo of the rifle to make sure I had the correct part. I did, but it did not fit the ladder (which they confusingly refer to as a "leaf", and htf am I supposed to figure that out after being told to "remove the sight and put it in a safe place"?). The unexplained and never-mentioned roll pin that was sticking out of the underside of the base prevented it from fitting into the ladder slot without removing the ladder slide (requiring a pin punch the diameter of a pencil lead).
Needless to say I sent the cheap Chinese POS back to them. I refuse to put such trash on a valuable rifle. To my utter shock they PUBLISHED MY REVIEW. Here's a link to it: http://www.opticsplanet.com/reviews/reviews-sun-optics-mauser-mosin-nagant-scout-mounts-review-322588.html
Yesterday morning I ordered an $85 S&K Carl Gustav Scout Mount. When it arrives I shall continue this saga.......