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drklynoon
03-31-2008, 01:16 AM
I am wondering what every one feels is the best caliber for north american deer. My brother uses a 300 win mag which I consider to be a bit of insanity but it's his shoulder. Right now I'm usin a 303 british but am considering upgrading before next winter. I am leaning towards a 30-06 just becuase of it's versatility in reloading and use. Maybe the .308. Then again I doubt I'd need anything bigger than a .243. So what do you guys think?

runfiverun
03-31-2008, 03:17 AM
if you can hit them with that 303 it's all you need
just think of it as a funny looking 308.
if you re-load [ and i know you do]
fire form some brass for it and read your load books or p.m. me i have 1 or 2
pretty good and easy 303 loads

drklynoon
03-31-2008, 03:50 AM
:lol: My 303 shoots around .5 MOA so she'll hit what I point her at for the most point. I have been wanting something else for a while and here within the next couple of months I should be getting some inflow of monies and I thought it'd be a neat topic to see what everyone is using and why.

runfiverun
03-31-2008, 05:34 PM
if you think you are going to start casting in the future and want
to use it for both, cast and jacketed
i would look for a 308 with a 1 in 12 twist bbl

drklynoon
03-31-2008, 05:51 PM
That sounds like a solid call run. What do you use?

runfiverun
04-01-2008, 03:17 AM
for deer and elk i have a 7 mauser ackley improved
my wife shoots straight 7x57 [ i have the reamer just havent done it yet,
my oldest girl shoots 7.7 jap, my youngest girl shoots 7.65 arg and 6mm rem
my boy likes 7.5x55
i have a 308 and shoot both cast and jacketed through it, if i am going rough or far
i'll take the 308 as its the light ruger they used to sell.

my wife and daughter both had 270's untill they shot my ackley
i have quite a few others and will take what matches where i am going to hunt
shot my deer with 45 colt last year.
the biggest gun i have is 25-06 unless you count 348 win but that aint goin hunting!

jlb300
04-01-2008, 03:35 PM
drklynoon
It sounds to me like you are comming in to a little money and need a reason to buy a new gun? I understand , I like to have a good reason to buy another one too. I dont know about how far south in Ga you are but I know you dont need the 300 win mag all too often on the south east part of the state . How ever if you are considering a hunting trip to texas or even colorado some day then you may want to rethink a longer faster flatter shooting caliber. Even though the 303 brit will do a number at greater distances than most give credit for. I like the .30's for the versatility in #' of reloading options as you mentioned in an earlier post. maybe a .300 win short mag is an option? the .308 win is very popular as well. I would look for the gun that makes sense to you and find one that you like and go for it. I hope you get another gun reguardless of the type or cal. just getting a new one makes good sense to me. Remember you NEED this

dale clawson
04-04-2008, 04:49 AM
308 or 30-06, can't go wrong with either. That said, I absolutely love my new Weatherby 257 mag. I haven't shot cast with it yet, and may not for a while. If you are going to shoot cast, go with the 30's. DALE

crossfire
04-06-2008, 11:55 PM
Given the influx of surplus Mosin-Nagants and accessory parts for them, the 7.62 x 54R is a nice budget option with power close to the .30-06.

C1PNR
04-30-2008, 03:19 AM
I am wondering what every one feels is the best caliber for north American deer. I doubt I'd need anything bigger than a .243.
You're probably right about the .243. It's a great cartridge available in a wide range of rifles. It's even been used quite successfully on elk, if at shorter range.

I think I'd go just a little larger in diameter, say a .257 or up. The .257 Roberts in a rifle that allows the bullet to be loaded at a longer OAL than most (longer action/magazine well) would kill anything you put the sight on. Or the 25-06, or even the .257 STW.;-)

Or maybe a .264 diameter, like the 6.5 x 55 Swede. Or like my friends .264 Win Mag, if you want to Really Reach Out:-D.

And of course the .270 Winchester is legend for killing deer, even if the options for bullets are a little limited.

And then we get into the 7mm (.284) range. There are a LOT of options there. The old and proven 7 x 57mm Mauser, the .280 Remington, just to mention a couple, would work well and not beat you up shooting them.

Once you hit the .30's, the arena is even larger. Lots of surplus rifles, in a wide variety of cartridges, are available. And many at very reasonable expense. The .303 British, .308 Winchester, '06, just a few of the options.

Didn't mean to add confusion, but you really do have a lot to choose from.:-D

Let us know what you end up getting.

versifier
04-30-2008, 05:58 PM
I grab my .308 90% of the time. It will do everything I could wish for with cast of jacketed to as great a range as I can still see clearly, but there is no practical difference in performance between it and the .303 you are now using. (If you are going where the ranges are longer, borrow your brother's rifle. :-D) If I were just starting out today, I would probably go with something a little easier on the shoulder for longer sessions at the bench, (maybe in .25 or 6.5mm) but I didn't have the patience for a lot of testing when I was younger. I can understand you wanting something lighter to carry around all day than a SMLE, but the truth is, you may be hard put to beat its accuracy with a new rifle. I am not one to be at all impressed with the newest this or the latest that, and most of the rifles I buy are used (except Contender Carbine barrels). I am awfully partial to Mauser actions, but I'm happy with just about any decent bolt for a deer rifle, as long as it's accurate. Find one with a stock that properly fits you first, then worry about the chambering later. You can handload, so factory offerings mean little or nothing. The better it fits you, the more you are likely to practice with it. You could have a .458mag that will shoot one hole groups, but it will beat you up so bad that you can't pass the pieplate test at 50yds offhand and will end up gathering dust until you can find a sucker to sell it to. I would rather something more user friendly that will come to the range to be shot regularly and know that when I pick it up, I can hit what I'm aiming at.

kodiak1
05-01-2008, 01:27 AM
25-06 with a 120 Grains of leaded Stopping power has worked extremely well on all deer.
Ken.

Bullshop Junior
05-02-2008, 12:37 AM
Never have had a chance to shoot a deer... But the old 06 will take down a moose just fine and a moose is alot bigger then a deer!!!

The_Montanan
05-11-2008, 03:15 PM
I like the ol 45-70, never hear a complaint from anything I ever hit with it [smilie=w:

From the 300-gr JSP, 405-gr JSP, 405-gr RNFP, 500-gr Elk Buster
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Tom W.
05-28-2008, 01:42 AM
You might try a 7mm-08 or even a .270.....Somehow that 7mm cal. works magic.......

jlb300
05-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Let us know what you decide to go with. I am interested and excited for you and your new (up comming)purchase

testhop
06-19-2008, 03:06 AM
Hey What About The 7mm-08 Big Enough To Get The Job Done On Any Thing Maybe Except Bears Moose And Long Distent Elk Thay Are Light Easy To Carry Low Kick
I Learned Along Time Ago That You Carry A Rifle More Than You Shoot It So
Get A Light One It6 Makes No Diffance What Cal. Youuse And What Range You Shoot Em. You Cant Kill Em.past Dead

missionary5155
07-13-2008, 07:28 PM
[QUOTE=drklynoon;4749]I am wondering what every one feels is the best caliber for north american deer. My brother uses a 300 win mag which I consider to be a bit of insanity but it's his shoulder. Right now I'm usin a 303 british but am considering upgrading before next winter. I am leaning towards a 30-06 just becuase of it's versatility in reloading and use. Maybe the .308. Then again I doubt I'd need anything bigger than a .243. So what do you guys think?[/QUOTE

:-DThe swamp bottom ground I hunt requires acuracy of 75 yards... My longest shot was 33 yards..closest was 10 feet... so my favorite caliber right now is my 58 flintlock or my 58 Navy Zouve Replica.... Hit something square with a pure lead 57 caliber ball and it will not go far... hopefully towards the tractor trail.[smilie=w:

405
07-17-2008, 04:38 PM
There's probably no one topic discussed more around the campfire than- Whats the best deer cartridge/bullet/gun?

I guess anything that will cleanly kill a deer, at the range it is shot. Bullet selection is also important. I've seen quite a bit of too much gun used and seen a few instances of not enough gun. I've seen too many instances of poor marksmanship and shooting too far! Too much gun/wrong bullet would include big fast bullet that blows up a lot of tissue... makes a mess of the animal. Too little would be small/slower bullet that doesn't do enough damage or penetrate enough for 100% animal recovery after shot. Good calibers abound for my choices.... .270 Win, '06, 308 Win, 280 Rem, 7-08, 7X57, etc. Tough to pick one!

missionary5155
07-31-2008, 09:58 PM
Well where I hunt I cannot see past 70 yards so my getting older Navy arms Zouave 58 cal. muzzle loader usind patched round ball (.57)is my weapon of choice. No deer has ever been lost and so far complete penetration.. even got two with one shot once. Two does standing side by side at 32 yards... Filled my 2 doe tag with one wollop... But if I had a field to shoot across any one of my 30-06 rifles (military) would sure do the trick. :)

miken54
10-21-2008, 04:01 AM
I still like the lever actions so my favorite for deer is the .250-3000. None of the deer I've hit with that one have gone far at all. Other rifles and calibers have been tried but I always go back to the old .250.

shooter39629
11-13-2008, 03:59 PM
My favorite is the 7-08 followed by my 270. I have several 30-06's, and a 300WSM. The 7-08 and 270 are in my favorite rifles a Remington model 7 and sendore

35Rem
11-18-2008, 03:17 AM
New here..first post. I vote for using my Marlin 336 lever action in 35 Rem when hunting here in Wisconsin. I use my handloads of 200gr Rem Cl's or 158gr Horns jhp's. Both have been very successful for me. Great forum just because I love to reload ALL my centerfire guns. Birds of a feather..you know...lol

testhop
11-19-2008, 03:17 AM
try the 7-08or the best cal ever made 270 winchester i think you carry the rifle more you
shoot it so get a light one there is nothing wrong with the 3006 eather

Hunter4Life
12-04-2008, 09:28 AM
My favorite deer caliber is my .25-06 followed by my .270 Win, then my .30-06. All are great deer rounds.

missionary5155
12-08-2008, 01:39 PM
In revolver 41 Mag

jlb300
12-12-2008, 02:57 PM
I am wondering if Drklynoon ever got a new gun?????????? If someone notices him posting see if he will come back here and post which way he went. I hope it worked out.

atr
01-09-2009, 12:38 AM
I use either a .257 Roberts with 117gr spitzer or a 7x57 with 120 gr. spitzer...my hunting is generally done with ranges from 75 yds to 250 yds. My 308 and '06 pretty much sit in the corner during the deer season. I find both the .257 and 7x57 really easy to shoot accurately, and they are lighter in weight than the 30 cals and magnums.....

Bill Church
01-11-2009, 11:29 PM
I am wondering what every one feels is the best caliber for north american deer. My brother uses a 300 win mag which I consider to be a bit of insanity but it's his shoulder. Right now I'm usin a 303 british but am considering upgrading before next winter. I am leaning towards a 30-06 just becuase of it's versatility in reloading and use. Maybe the .308. Then again I doubt I'd need anything bigger than a .243. So what do you guys think?
Its awfull hard to beat a 180 grain 30 06 when it comes to Deer if you are aloud to shoot em in your state.

I have one in a Remington 700 and in a 710 (I know every one shutters at the mention of a 710) but The 710 holds a better group but you can't tell anyone what your shooting.

chris112
01-24-2009, 12:57 AM
Probably the 7X57 in a Ruger M77. All one shot kills with it.
Only tried the 308 once. Satisfied but not any better than the 7X57.
Need to take the 6mm Rem one of these days. But I have a feeling that it will work just fine.
Don't plan on ever triing either of the 22 centerfires. Just don't think it is a good idea.

1Shirt
03-06-2009, 03:05 PM
Agree w/Chris 112, took my 77 Rug in 7x57 to Africa, took 10 heads with it out to over 400 yds. That said, I hunt deer in central Ne. and shots can be to infinity (or so it seems) Little to no timber, so I seem to have grabbed the 7Rem Mag. the past few years, but would be just as happy with 7x57. Have taken deer with 222 (where it was legal), 243,7x57,7Rem, and 06. If I were woods hunting would probably be satisfied with on old 94 Win in 30-30. You have to hitum to gitum, and you have to hitum in the right place. It is bullet placement that counts regardless of what you shoot.
1Shirt!:coffee:

casullman
03-07-2009, 01:42 AM
Definately a 7MM make mine a long action

lon_in_thewoods
03-16-2009, 05:15 AM
I think my favorite has been which ever I was carrying at the moment. Indiana has just recently went to rifles(pistol caliber) I currently have a .44 mag and .357 maximum. I am just starting to reload. With the prices of shotgun slugs vs rifle (handgun)ammo, you can bet .44 mag and .357 max will soon be my favorite deer cartridges.

Lonny

ISME
08-13-2009, 11:52 PM
I am a deep woods kind of hunter for the most part . I occasionally get to hunt around corn fields. My two choices are .44mag mod. 92 trapper and .308 Mossberg ATR100 I really like both of these and they seem to get the job done, if I do my part.

airborne556762
08-18-2009, 08:10 PM
No doubt has to be the 300 WSM and 280 Rem calibers. Very easy to handload for and in my Browning Abolt II composite stalkers (in both calibers) topped with Leupold scopes that are absolute tack drivers in both factory ammo and the handloads.

I have hunted in 30 different states (from Alaska to the southeast US) and now live in the upper midwest where long range shooting reigns. You have got to have really accurate rilfes or in some cases you will be eating deer tag soup for the winter.

These two calibers are not only my most favorite deer rifles but I would use the 300 WSM on everything in North America using the right handloads for it. Works for me!!!!!!

Huntbear
08-19-2009, 09:32 PM
Hmmm lets see.

Browning BLR in .308
Remington 700 Custom in 7mm-08
Howa Custom in .257 A.I.
Remington 760 in .300 Sav.
Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.

To many to choose a favorite. They have all killed deer. They all shoot great. All have been easy to reload for.

I guess my favorite would be whatever I grabbed from the safe as I was going out the door that day.

stick_man
08-25-2009, 05:00 AM
My favorite would have to be a toss-up between the '06 and the '06. I have taken many deer with my .30-06 Rem 760 and also lots of deer with the Parker Hale in .25-06 Both are very competent to do their job and it primarily just depends on the area I am hunting and who I am hunting with. Lately, my son has wanted to use the .25-06 so I get to use the .30 a little more often. Although, as I get older, the 6mm Rem is looking a lot more like a deer rifle instead of just a varmint gun. :mrgreen:

If I am on a combo deer/elk hunt, it is definitely the .30-06 loaded with the 168gr Barnes TSX. Quite the performance and accuracy.

It's all about the shot placement. Your favorite should be the one you feel the most comfortable with.

DKA
11-25-2009, 10:37 AM
My favorite Deer Hunting Caliber is a 25 06 & 7mm 08. Both of these calibers are easy on the shoulder and very accurate. I also have some big guns for different situations.

Worn_Holster
03-26-2011, 03:05 AM
I've hunted for years with .270 Winchester until a gunsmith (and gun dealer) convinced me to switch and buy a .270 WSM stainless Model 70. I have hunted it for 9 years now, and I have made some decent long shots with it and have no complaints. Factory ammo is expensive, but I reload for it and it shoots true and flat.

Pegasus1
04-05-2011, 04:17 PM
I have shot a lot of deer in Missouri with a 30-06 and it would be my choice
Others have suggested a 7m-08 which is a great choice, but one I haven't seen is the 260 Remington. It is just a little smaller the 7m-08 and a pretty accurate round.

Like others have said post up with what you decide on.

303tom
04-09-2011, 06:56 AM
Mine .30 cal. !

BigOtto
05-01-2011, 05:27 AM
You just had to ask!
I started with a No1 MkIII and did quite well with that. From there it all went to hell.
I think it's easier to say what I've killed deer with rather than my favorite.

6MM rem kills deer all day if you do your part. I use 90 gr sierra game kings in that.

Any 6.5 bore is a fantastic killer with moderate recoil. 6.5x55, 6.5-284, 6.5-257 roberts improved. I use 120 gr lead tip like the Sierra GK or 140 gr ballistic tips.

.270 win with 130 gr bullit is a great caliber also. I used Hornady SSTs and they are really explosive. The last deer I shot with that bullet left a baseball sized entry (that's what I said) wound. Now all I use is GK.

.280 rem. All I can say is WOW! 140 gr ballistic tips penetrated from just in front of right hind quarter and I found the bullet tip under left shoulder hide. I did not find the jacket. That could be a problem so I plan to slow them down a bit.

8MM mauser, .338-06, .35 whelen all pretty much turn them into sprinklers. Just follow the river of blood to the scene of the crash! I really like the ballistic tips in the .338 and the .35. They both move slow enough and hold together really well.

.30-338 WM. and 165 gr GK. Now that is absolutely over kill for deer in the great northern pine forrests of MN but I built it for a target rifle and my son glommed onto it when the target thing got boring.

.45-70 with smokeless powder and jacketed bullets is a lot of fun when you get used to shooting it. I have made grown men cry with that one.

My next one is going to be a BP .45-70 with cast bullets. Should be fun.

Then there is a .30-40 Krag project waiting in the wings.

Smoke-um if you got-um
05-17-2011, 03:11 AM
30-06 with a 165 grain Sierra Gameking or a 165 Nosler BT at about 2600fps at the muzzle gets my vote for any deer in the country out to 350 yds. Both of those bullets shoot extremely well out of my Savage 116 in front of a load of IMR 4064 or RL-15. H380 with the same bullets does well in my 30-06 Winchester made in 1947. It's not nearly as accurate as the 116 but I'm comfortable using it out to approx. 200 yds if I can get a good rest or prone position. If I didn't have arthritis in my hands and shoulders I just might be persuaded to consider a 300 Win. Mag. as a little more long range friendly for Mulies.

Mike

Paul B
06-23-2011, 05:48 PM
"If I didn't have arthritis in my hands and shoulders I just might be persuaded to consider a 300 Win. Mag. as a little more long range friendly for Mulies."

I hear you on the arthritis. I've had to qut shooting my .375 H&H, .404 Jeffery and .416 Rigby because of my arthritic shoulder. I still take them out once in a great while but the pain for over a week or so afterwards ain't much fun, Thank God for Aleve, it helps.

If you were anywhere near whee I live, I'd invite you to try my .300 Win. Mag. I put a Pachmayr Decelerator recoil pad on the gun and it does make a big difference in the hurt.

The late great Col. Townsend Whelen once said, "The 30-06 is never a mistake." I've probably shot more deer with the 30-06 than anything else and the .308 is in a very close second place. I shot one deer with a .308 at 427 paes so it will reach out and touch something with a bit less kick than the 06. Lately I've been playing with the 7x57 Mauser, .280 Remington and .35 Whelen. Dunno which one I'll use come deer season, that is if I draw a tag but if I get the area I want, it'll be my Winchester M70 Featherweight in 7x57 with the Ruger M77 RSI in .308 as back up.
Paul B.

303tom
07-28-2011, 03:06 AM
I am wondering what every one feels is the best caliber for north american deer. My brother uses a 300 win mag which I consider to be a bit of insanity but it's his shoulder. Right now I'm usin a 303 british but am considering upgrading before next winter. I am leaning towards a 30-06 just becuase of it's versatility in reloading and use. Maybe the .308. Then again I doubt I'd need anything bigger than a .243. So what do you guys think?

I guess I am going to have to say the .30 is the best caliber period , and what is all the hoopla over the 7mm-08 why when you can have a .30-08 . O well to each his own .

irishwoodsman
02-17-2012, 01:58 AM
I have taken alot of deer with a 303 and have 4 of them, 1 is a 308 long ranch or isapore, great rifle, but favorite is the mauser 6.5x55, and i do have a collection of mauser, 3006,7mm 8mm,308, 6.5x55:-D

casullman
03-09-2012, 07:18 PM
7mm of any sort. not too big...not too small and ballistically superior to most

DAKOTA ONE
05-10-2012, 10:58 AM
GO WITH THE 270 OR 30/06 130gr 150gr. you can't go wrong.
and if you reload better yet !

Louis M

303tom
07-10-2012, 05:48 PM
How about a 7.5 French................

303tom
07-11-2012, 02:34 PM
Looks like I am going to have some reloading to do..............7.5x54.

bubba15301
09-26-2012, 04:17 AM
savage model 99 in .22 savage hipower

hornady
10-04-2012, 12:05 PM
If looking for one do all rifles I would say the 308 Winchester. I own several rifles but this being in the reloading section. The nice thing about the 308 Win, you can down load to a very mild easy on the shoulder load, too real close to factory 30-06. I reload several rifle rounds but have never had trouble finding the bullet brand or weight in .308 I wanted. Other caliberís I can not say the same about. Hands down the .308 bullet is the most reloaded hunting round in the US. So most gun shop have a good selection on hand. The only other caliber reloaded, as much would be the .224. And with all the AR shooters I have ordered .224 bullets and the dreaded back order appeared on the screen. I own 6 rifles I would not hesitate to use on Deer. 3 -30 cal, 2-7MM, and one 270. All have dropped Deer. My favorite, thatís the one I am carrying that day. I also own a 22-250, not one of my picks for a Deer rifle but many Deer have been killed cleanly with one as well. Any of the rifles I mentioned or previous poster have will take deer if you do your part. I would look at your hunting area, and match the rifle and round to the hunting area most likely you will be using the rifle in. If just for Deer one of the 30s, if predators are in your future the 243 may be a better choice both.

10x
11-19-2012, 05:13 AM
Your .303 British is a fine deer rifle. I like the 30/06 and that is what I usually hunt with. On occasion I will grab my 35 Rem or my M10 Ross ( .303 Brit ). Choose the caliber that strikes your fancy-if you do your part the bullet will do its part.

savagebrother
11-29-2017, 01:59 AM
Love my savage 1920 bolt action in 250 savage made in 1926. Why??? Well I have been working with it this year and found that nobody had really looked at it with all these new powders. The 250 savage is a very efficient cartridge. It's so efficient I have built a precision rifle on it. Get this load for varmints- 42 grs varget under a 75 gr VMAX which from my 22" barrel gives........3480 FPS!!!!!
Now for deer - 36.5 grs varget under a Sierra 90 gr HPBT avg FPS is 3050!!! With a 1:14 twist.
Devastating on whitetails. Recoil??? What recoil!!! Great for women and beginners and kids.
SB
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versifier
11-29-2017, 02:59 PM
Never have a bad word to say about the .250Sav. Never had much interest in it for varmints as its necked-down .22cal bro does that for me just fine, but it is a deer killer par excellance. I load for a pair of Sav99's, 100gr GK's and PAR's over 3031, 2.5-3" groups @200yds, somewhere between 27-2800fps depending on how hot or cold it is, both rifles more than 100yrs old. I've been loading for them for 25+ years and a lot of deer have been taken with the old girls. It would be a lot of fun to have a bolt action in .250....

gemihur
08-20-2018, 12:41 AM
I love the 250 Savage. I have a stubbed 16" barrel for my contender. But earlier mention was of 7 mm bullets. The 7-30 Waters is my absolute favorite.
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