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klausg
05-01-2006, 09:54 PM
Gang- I'm a neophyte to casting my own, but I've been thinking about picking up a Lyman 311008, that throws a 115 gr bullet, originally designed for .32-20. I like heavier bullets and am wondering just what that hummer would do in a .32 H&R. I'd like to be able to get 900-1000 fps or so. Both of my .32's are Ruger Single-Sixes. I know I can't be the first person to think of this, any ideas out there? Thanks.

-SSG Klaus

kg42
05-02-2006, 01:28 AM
You busy lucky newbie ;)

There's a couple of recent threads the other door at CBoolits, and these two sites have data up to 100gr so that you can make an educated guess...:

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/index.aspx
http://www.accuratepowder.com/loaddata_caliber_handgun.htm

...don't forget the cowboy section at Accurate (they used a 10" bbl btway).

I have some data from Paco Kelly and Ross Seyfried for that kind of bullets at home but these guys went supersonic with magnum powders; I'll add it to the thread later.

kg

kg42
05-02-2006, 05:49 PM
From Hodgdon's 2006 annual, you can compare it to their web site which goes only up to 90gr:
32H&R Mag, 100gr SPRJHP, 5"bbl.

H4227: 9-10gr/980-1060fps/16000-19000cup
LilGun: 10-11gr/1151-1208fps/18000-20000cup
HS6: 4.8-5.4gr/885-1023fps/16000-20000cup
Universal: 3.3-3.7gr/843-973fps/14000-20000cup
TiteGroup: 2.8-3.3gr/833-956fps/15000-20000cup

Paco's loads:6.8x800X+Ly3118 (115grs)=1300fps, 9x2400=1289fps, from 6".

klausg
05-03-2006, 01:25 AM
kg- Thanks brother, you guys are real lifesavers, I got a lot of good input from the CB side also; it looks like that mold is definitely on my wish list. However the salmon are about to start running so it might have to be put on hold for awhile; I'm sure you probably have much the same problem in British Columbia. In another couple of weeks I'll be way too busy to even think about looking for that mold on a deal, I'll just drop a hint to my bro for a X-mas present. Thanks again, take care of yourself.

-SSG Klaus

klausg
05-17-2006, 04:36 AM
kg42- I finally found a 3118 on eBay; it arrived yesterday & is currently soaking in some denatured alcohol; it had been stored in some Cosmoline, great stuff for preventing corrosion, but God how I hate trying to get it off. Drawbacks are: a) it's only a one-holer, & b) I now have to find a set of Lyman 'Small' handles, (another bid on eBay and a week if I'm lucky). I'm going bear hunting this weekend in Prince William Sound, so a casting/range report will probably take awhile. Take care & thanks for all of your replies.

-SSG Klaus

versifier
05-17-2006, 06:33 AM
I've been having fun with the Lee 311-100-2R in my 10" .30carb Contender. Different case, but we're talking similar velocities. I'm seeing decent accuracy sizing it to .308 (2" 5shot 25yds) from a rest & I'm going to see if it will do even better sized to .310. It drops from the mould at .312 out of WW, so it should do well in your .32H&R, that's the class it was designed for (.32/20, .32S&WLong, .32Colt). I wish it came in a six-holer too.

klausg
05-17-2006, 02:52 PM
versifier-I jumped on the .32 Keith bullet (98gr) Group Buy on the CB side; that one is spec'd to drop @ .315, probably way too big for you. I believe that there are still some molds leftover from an earlier .32 GB that if I remember correctly are dropping @ .313, which may be do-able for you, (I think they weigh-in @ 118 or so in WW). Check with Willbird on the other side if that one might work for you. After my first casting session last weekend w/ a 311252 (2-banger) I tend to agree with you on the need/want for a 6-banger. Hey thanks for the input, take care.

-SSG Klaus

versifier
05-17-2006, 05:56 PM
When we get up into that weight range, I'm perfectly happy with Lee soup cans. I lucked onto one that throws them .312 right out of the box. Nice flat nose for small game, (and they've taken a few deer out of .30-30's, too). My goal with the smaller boolits was a round that I could hollow point for small critters as expansion is a problem at these modest velocities. Sierra has a nice little 85gr RN designed for the .30 Mauser & Luger rounds that will expand, but really isn't long enough to stabilize in the Contender's twist rate. 4-5" @25yds just doesn't cut it for me accuracy-wise, I want clean kills out to 50yds or so. The 100's and 113 soupcans will both keep in 2" @ 25yds and 3" @ 50yds - that's good enough to pop a woodchuck, quill pig, raccoon, or a skunk out as far as I am confident shooting at them.

kg42
05-20-2006, 05:36 PM
Klaus, good job, you need at least a single cav mold to remind you how good the multiple cavities are :).

I like LEE's 2 cavs very much and get a very good production rate with simple designs under 200gr, but I wasn't very happy with a couple of the first 6 bangers.
I would expect their 32 designs to do very well; my pick would be the 113gr F after getting rid of the GC shank.... for the speed and pressure you want it might even shoot well as is.

... and I want to hear about PW Sound... :)

kg

Howdy
05-23-2007, 11:48 PM
Went to store to buy .32 lead RN, .314 for S & W .32 Long, paid & left.
By the time I got round to reload, found that clerk gave me .312 for .32 ACP.

Should I try anyway as I've lost the receipt?

BTW: I'm loading for a S & W .32 Long of pre-WWII vintage, small frame in good condition.

Should I try reloading with .314 HBWC?

versifier
05-24-2007, 01:01 AM
Welcome Howdy,
Why not? The soft lead may obturate enough for them to be reasonably accurate. If not, no big deal, but you'll never find out without trying them. Same goes for the HBWC. I have had revolvers in .38/.357 that liked them and others that wouldn't have anything accurate to do with them. Generally in a revolver, a RN design is more forgiving than a WC, though some really shine with WC's and mild loads of Bullseye.