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Gary Carter
12-26-2005, 12:01 AM
Hello, I'm new to this forrum. Looking at getting into reloading for my .44 Mag. Ruger, unfortunatly I don't have the time to pour my own bullets, and was looking around on ebay. Found an outfit called "Magnus Bullet Company" offering hard cast 250 gr Kieth style bullets out of 8/2 alloy. I am currious if any one has delt with this outfit before and if the results were good?

Gary

Toney
12-26-2005, 02:35 AM
Welcome to the guide Gary! I have not bought anything from them. Before i started casting i used hornady cast buttets.

BS JR's folks sell alot of cast bullets check out there home page

Gary Carter
12-26-2005, 02:49 AM
Just now looking at getting set up for warmer weather, trying to figure out what I need and get some ideas. Waksupi suggested poking around here for information. He recommended around 19 gr. of 2400 behind a 240 hard cast. Like I said I don't have time to pour my own figured on going with factory poured bullets, if I can find one that works right in my gun. I'll check out JR's folks thanks.

Gary

Toney
12-26-2005, 03:02 AM
http://www.wildak.net/~bullshop

d-o-k
12-26-2005, 04:37 AM
G'day & welcome to the Site Gary .It's a great place & it's growing dayly ! As Toney says Bullshop Jr is the man to see reguards Cast bullets as that's his Dad's stock & trade !

Bullshop Junior
12-26-2005, 05:07 AM
Gary Carter,
I will give you another link for custom cast boolits. This is the auctions currently listed from Bull Shop
http://www.auctionarms.com/search/auctions.aspx?&ad=bullet%20man%20dan
DANIEL/BS JR.

Bigbore44
12-27-2005, 11:45 PM
Hello Gary.

Is your Ruger a revolver or a rifle? Probably a revolver as you are mentioning cast bullets.

The Ruger rifle should never use the lead cast bullets in that gas operated semi-auto shooter in .44 magnum...only use jacketed bullets in those long guns. But a Ruger bolt action or lever gun in .44 magnum is OK for cast bullets as long as the velocity isn't too high.

Would caution you about shooting lead cast bullets at too high of a velocity as there could be barrel leading if not using gaschecks. Anything over 1,200 fps velocity may be subject to some leading.

If your bullet is fairly hard cast and under that mark you should be OK. A lot of it is due to the alloy of the cast metal.

Good luck loading.


Jim

Gary Carter
12-30-2005, 06:21 PM
Yeah my Ruger is a revolver, a 7-1/2" barreled Bisley. I was woundering about gas checks. See them mentioned, but don't really know under which conditions they are nessary. So I take it under 1200 fps I shouldn't need them, correct.

Gary

454PB
01-05-2006, 06:03 AM
Gary, cast boolit diameter is every bit as important as hardness. In general, Rugers will shoot hard cast bullets of .431" to .430" diameter with no leading up to about 1300 fps if the cylinder throats are not oversized. If you own a good set of vernier calipers, measure each throat ( the bullet end of the cylinder) and add about.0005". The reason for adding 1/2 of a thousand is that the throats should really be "slugged", rather than directly measured. Direct measurement will usually indicate the .0005" less than slugging.

If you want to actually slug the barrel and cylinder throats, drive a lubricated soft lead slug through the barrel from muzzle to forcing cone, then measure the large diameter with a micrometer. Same for the throats, drive a slug from the rear of the cylinder out the front and measure diameter. I use some of my own cast boolits, but you can also use a large lead fishing sinker. If the sinker is too small, just bump up the size by tapping with a hammer.

Gary Carter
01-07-2006, 03:25 PM
Thanks had heard to slugg my gun, wasn't real sure of the procedure. This clears it up.

Gary

454PB
01-07-2006, 09:19 PM
By the way, the recipe you mentioned of 19 gr. 2400 and 240 gr. cast is a good one. I personally don't like 2400, because it is a "dirty burner". There are lots of guys that do like it, and when I was using it, it was very accurate. My favorite for all out power is Lil'Gun, H-110, and WW 296. For slightly less, and an excellent powder overall in .44 magnum, try Alliant Bluedot.

d-o-k
01-08-2006, 06:29 AM
By the way, the recipe you mentioned of 19 gr. 2400 and 240 gr. cast is a good one. I personally don't like 2400, because it is a "dirty burner". There are lots of guys that do like it, and when I was using it, it was very accurate. My favorite for all out power is Lil'Gun, H-110, and WW 296. For slightly less, and an excellent powder overall in .44 magnum, try Alliant Bluedot.

I've always found WW 296 a rather dirty powder or is it just me ? I like a load of about 20gns of ADI 2205 behind a 240 gn jaketed in the .44 mag (H4227) & for cast slugs I use 4.5 gns of green dot for a cowboy load with the 240g slug & 8gns of SR7625 as a nice light plinking load

Dave

Bigbore44
01-08-2006, 05:01 PM
Gary, I just recently learned of a good source of hardcast bullets. Its called penn bullets.com and they ship in 500 or 1,000 lots.

500 bullets $24, 1,000 $54...plus $7.70 flat rate shipping USPS box.

Check them out.

Jim

Gary Carter
01-15-2006, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the tip.

454PB
01-16-2006, 03:27 AM
I've not found 296 or H-110 to be dirty burners...as long as they are used at high pressure/near max loads as is required with these powders. With 2400, I had unburned powder getting lodged under the ejector in my double action revolvers to the point that I couldn't close the cylinder.