We got it to the range. There is a cheap Bushnell on it that neither of us can see through very well and the windage won't adjust. Despite that we got a 3" group from load #2, but we stopped there figuring to come back with better sighting system, either a peep or a red dot. In the mean time he hit a 1" bullseye @ 100yds dead center first shot with my peep-sighted .308. He was looking at the old Remington the same way he looks at my daughter. I have a feeling I may be hunting with something scoped this year if I don't get the new sight on that Marlin for him. Maybe I will anyway.....