240 weatherby mag

[PARA45]

Thanks for the info bro, I appreciate you taking the time to pass it on to me. I copy and pasted the info you gave me. I'll give annealing a try with some 308 or 30-06 brass I have laying around. Do you do the annealing in the dark or dim lighting to see the changing color??

[picklehead]

I don't do the low light/turning pink thing.I think the case is to hot when it turns pink or a redesh color.Check your e-mail bro and wish I was smart enough to send it in video.Just watching the color of the case change is enough and works great for me.All cases are differ so you got to play alittle with it.That reminds me,i did 200 204's in rem brass but haven't loaded the first one yet.

[RiverRider]

Hornady has (*or at least HAD) a decent annealing kit available for a while. I think it was about $35 when I bought it about four or five years ago. It includes a couple of devices like sockets that you chuck up in a drill to spin the cases for you as you apply heat, and they also help keep the heat off the case head. It also comes with a small bottle of Tempilaq. You apply a small band of it on the case body about 1/4 inch below the shoulder. It's white and easily visible. As you apply heat, the Tempilaq will change states and (IIRC, it's been a while) become clear. That's your signal to stop heating the case. When I do it, I apply Tempilaq to six or eight cases and count as I apply heat, watching for the stuff to turn clear. After just a few cases I stop applying the stuff and just count. Works like a charm.

Another trick I have heard of but not tried for myself is to use MAP gas instead of propane. It supposedly gets the case neck heated up much faster and does the job before the heat can conduct down to the case head (which I am sure you know is a bad thing---don't want to soften the cases heads!).

Whatever method you adopt, I think you'll find annealing to be well worth the effort. I think you'd be in full agreement, huh picklehead?

[picklehead]

RiverRider,YES I DO. Never tried the Tempilaq stuff and figured it was just another cost for learning when just screwing up is cheaper with junk brass.I found out long ago that win,rem,fed or whatever brass is differ in the metals they use and trail/erra(cant spell) is best for learning.

I use the socket method but turn them by hand and thanks for reminding me about putting a cordless or power drill behind them when ran slow.No matter how you do it,the neck tension is better or more constant and cases last WAY LONGER/accuracy is better in some if not all rifles that ive done it for.If the die is set right,doing this makes bullet run out better also because the exspander ball isn't tring to work so hard on HARD BRASS.

This is useless for hunting loads that someone just cares about minute of a barn door at 25 to 100 yards hunting rounds other than the brass life last longer as you and others know.I have a few bottles of Mapp gas for the handheld torch but never tried it out.I just put propane on my shopping list but might try the Mapp before I buy a few bottles.Heck,the bottles of Mapp was free so why spend another $4 for propane.

Thanks for the tip RiverRider and have differ tips for my hand held torch but not sure if they are for Mapp gas.My big cutting torch uses act/ox but have a special Victor head just for Mapp and use it for cutting plate steel when I get over 3/8" thick or so.Just used it last month to cut out a plate for my buds truck so he could make a fifth wheel to pull his tractor.Made a jig out of angle and cut it pretty darn straight to my surprise.After he grinded it smooth,damn ny looked like a plasma cutter did the cut.

[DrHenley]

I use the low light method and it works well for me. I watch the inside of the case neck, because the glow will be visible there before it is visible on the outside.

IIRC, I haven't had any cases over-annealed by this method. If anything, I have had some under-annealed because I had the torch turned down too much and the heat got to my fingers before the glow was visible.

[j1]

I am surprised at two such formidable reloaders and shooters buying magnums. Almost everybody knows that magnums are no good. Next thing you will need premium bullets. The 30 06 with 165 grain rules. No premium bullets needed and it kills like the proverbial hammer of Thor.

[picklehead]

Its not about the killing honey.Its about waisting money to have fun and have things that most doesn't have so when we die,,some butt wipe can sell it for alittle of nothing. John look at it this way,a 30-06 is a mag compared to the 308.This isn't true but food for thought.Just because the weath's are called mags mean nothing to me and I love power,fast and flat shooting.The 22-250 or such is the same but love pushing 87 to 140grn pills fast enough so they only drop 10 to 4 inches from 180/400 yards and very accurate.The Weath mags do this along with many other carts but I like odd ball stuff if that's what its called.

Now,its time to pick on JOHN.Why was you asking if the 30-06 was enough for ELK if you are so dedicated on the 06? NEVER,NEVER under estimate the power of the 06 or any other cart if the shot placement is right and using the right bullet.You ask me WHAT WOULD YOU SHOOT WITH THE 240? I said anything and didn't think twice.The 240 is nothing but a souped up 243 and with the right bullet for the job at hand will drop anything just as a 460 would.

The 264RLB will drop anything and DOC loves it so much that he retired his 25-06 if I remember correct.Is the 264RLB better than the 30-06? I cant say but he knows when the trig is pulled that the work begins no matter what cal he shoots just as I do.Sorry Doc but had to throw you in the picture.

[PARA45]

John, I've liked Weatherbys since I was kid, and remember dreaming of the day I could own one and remember reading and reading the Weatherby ads on gun magazines. Ed Weatherby was a pioneer in his days, and he did things back in those days no one dreamed of doing. I love the style, the looks and the feel of a Weatherby wood stock, and also the cartridge. I'm also a sucker for good looking wood, and most, not all Mark Vs Deluxe come with beautiful stocks. I'm currently reading ""Weatherby. The Man,The Gun, The Legend" and I'm amazed on what Ed did and how he built his company. Oh, and BTW, my 30-06 has killed more deer than any of the rifles in my safe and I even took to Africa as my back up rifle.

BTW, I'm picking on you too! I still want to meet you and have a drink with you while I smoke a fine cigar and speak to you in Spanish

[elkhunter77]

John you remember your old buddy out here? Hell, I live in magnumville. I love to burn powder and shoot rockets. I relate it to my souped up diesel truck. I don't need 570HP and 800Ft lbs of torque but it sure is fun when I want to put a foot in it.

I have always liked the more power thing. Guess that is why I raced boats with a pair of 1250HP blower motors in them. And the boat did not weigh 3000 lbs LOL So it is only natural that I become the magnum rifle junkie. Besides that, my 300 Ultra mag is pushing a 168 out there at speeds an '06 never heard of. Much less drop at 5 or 6 hundred yards if needed.

[picklehead]

Yepper,ive been a fast,flat and accuracy freak since about 1991 when I bought my first 22-250 and 7mag.I was pushing them down gas lines because that was the only place we could shoot 500 or more yards.I will never forget the day when 4 of us went shooting.We found a huge piece of slate that was about 5 inches thick and 3'x3'.We stood it up and walked off 500 and some steps and took turns shooting the rifles at it.The 7mags was hitting it every shot once we figured out where to hold.The 06 and 270 never came close to it.We found a few 270 bullets that skidded across the snow and laying on top.The bullets looked like a brand new bullet other with land/grove marks.Dont have a clue where the 06 hit and tried to tell the boy that a 30-06 wouldn't hit something at 500 yards if sited dead on at 50 yards but he thought it would because his dad said so.

This is when I learned that a 7mag will bust a deers butt at 500 yards easy if sited in at 2" high at 100 yards and use the bottom post in the scope for 450 to 500 yards using a 140grn bullet.Will the 270 or 06 kill stuff at 500 yards? SURE IT WILL but I love rifles that is fast and very accurate.Thats why I have the 204,22-250,6.5rem mag,7mag,257mag,7Rum and bought the 240mag.Got the 300,338 and 375 RUM's also but they are brand new and never even fired them and doubt that I ever do.

Heck,as I get older the 7-08 gets used for hunting more than anything.I still love POWER though.

Mark,i never was much on boats but had one of the fastest street rods around here years ago.1972 chev short bed pickup,402 big block,bds(blower drive system)shot of nitro,488 gears and would that bitch would suck the others up the pipe if they got that close.