.32 H&R Heavy bullets

[klausg]

Gang- I'm a neophyte to casting my own, but I've been thinking about picking up a Lyman 311008, that throws a 115 gr bullet, originally designed for .32-20. I like heavier bullets and am wondering just what that hummer would do in a .32 H&R. I'd like to be able to get 900-1000 fps or so. Both of my .32's are Ruger Single-Sixes. I know I can't be the first person to think of this, any ideas out there? Thanks.

-SSG Klaus

[kg42]

You busy lucky newbie

There's a couple of recent threads the other door at CBoolits, and these two sites have data up to 100gr so that you can make an educated guess...:

http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/index.aspx
http://www.accuratepowder.com/loadda...er_handgun.htm

...don't forget the cowboy section at Accurate (they used a 10" bbl btway).

I have some data from Paco Kelly and Ross Seyfried for that kind of bullets at home but these guys went supersonic with magnum powders; I'll add it to the thread later.

kg

[kg42]

From Hodgdon's 2006 annual, you can compare it to their web site which goes only up to 90gr:
32H&R Mag, 100gr SPRJHP, 5"bbl.

H4227: 9-10gr/980-1060fps/16000-19000cup
LilGun: 10-11gr/1151-1208fps/18000-20000cup
HS6: 4.8-5.4gr/885-1023fps/16000-20000cup
Universal: 3.3-3.7gr/843-973fps/14000-20000cup
TiteGroup: 2.8-3.3gr/833-956fps/15000-20000cup

Paco's loads:6.8x800X+Ly3118 (115grs)=1300fps, 9x2400=1289fps, from 6".

[klausg]

kg- Thanks brother, you guys are real lifesavers, I got a lot of good input from the CB side also; it looks like that mold is definitely on my wish list. However the salmon are about to start running so it might have to be put on hold for awhile; I'm sure you probably have much the same problem in British Columbia. In another couple of weeks I'll be way too busy to even think about looking for that mold on a deal, I'll just drop a hint to my bro for a X-mas present. Thanks again, take care of yourself.

-SSG Klaus

[klausg]

kg42- I finally found a 3118 on eBay; it arrived yesterday & is currently soaking in some denatured alcohol; it had been stored in some Cosmoline, great stuff for preventing corrosion, but God how I hate trying to get it off. Drawbacks are: a) it's only a one-holer, & b) I now have to find a set of Lyman 'Small' handles, (another bid on eBay and a week if I'm lucky). I'm going bear hunting this weekend in Prince William Sound, so a casting/range report will probably take awhile. Take care & thanks for all of your replies.

-SSG Klaus

[versifier]

I've been having fun with the Lee 311-100-2R in my 10" .30carb Contender. Different case, but we're talking similar velocities. I'm seeing decent accuracy sizing it to .308 (2" 5shot 25yds) from a rest & I'm going to see if it will do even better sized to .310. It drops from the mould at .312 out of WW, so it should do well in your .32H&R, that's the class it was designed for (.32/20, .32S&WLong, .32Colt). I wish it came in a six-holer too.

[klausg]

versifier-I jumped on the .32 Keith bullet (98gr) Group Buy on the CB side; that one is spec'd to drop @ .315, probably way too big for you. I believe that there are still some molds leftover from an earlier .32 GB that if I remember correctly are dropping @ .313, which may be do-able for you, (I think they weigh-in @ 118 or so in WW). Check with Willbird on the other side if that one might work for you. After my first casting session last weekend w/ a 311252 (2-banger) I tend to agree with you on the need/want for a 6-banger. Hey thanks for the input, take care.

-SSG Klaus

[versifier]

When we get up into that weight range, I'm perfectly happy with Lee soup cans. I lucked onto one that throws them .312 right out of the box. Nice flat nose for small game, (and they've taken a few deer out of .30-30's, too). My goal with the smaller boolits was a round that I could hollow point for small critters as expansion is a problem at these modest velocities. Sierra has a nice little 85gr RN designed for the .30 Mauser & Luger rounds that will expand, but really isn't long enough to stabilize in the Contender's twist rate. 4-5" @25yds just doesn't cut it for me accuracy-wise, I want clean kills out to 50yds or so. The 100's and 113 soupcans will both keep in 2" @ 25yds and 3" @ 50yds - that's good enough to pop a woodchuck, quill pig, raccoon, or a skunk out as far as I am confident shooting at them.

[kg42]

Klaus, good job, you need at least a single cav mold to remind you how good the multiple cavities are .

I like LEE's 2 cavs very much and get a very good production rate with simple designs under 200gr, but I wasn't very happy with a couple of the first 6 bangers.
I would expect their 32 designs to do very well; my pick would be the 113gr F after getting rid of the GC shank.... for the speed and pressure you want it might even shoot well as is.

... and I want to hear about PW Sound...

kg

[Howdy]

Went to store to buy .32 lead RN, .314 for S & W .32 Long, paid & left.
By the time I got round to reload, found that clerk gave me .312 for .32 ACP.

Should I try anyway as I've lost the receipt?

BTW: I'm loading for a S & W .32 Long of pre-WWII vintage, small frame in good condition.

Should I try reloading with .314 HBWC?